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Mark
Posted on: Aug 12 2017, 01:20 PM


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I am a free market guy.

The way I see it is that if you are a poor person then buy what you can fit into your budget. If you are rich, good for you, buy what catches your fancy. If you are a maker of an item, make the best item you can and set your price point appropriately. I agree with Keith in that the NAF could be considered a luxury item but odds are you can find an affordable instrument. Personally, I see the market flooded with affordable flutes. I have heard in private from more than one maker, that cheap flutes have saturated the market. That players/collectors have grown accustom to these low prices and not willing to pay a fair price for the more labor intensive flutes. That is the reason why some have moved on to other careers or other instruments.

As for me, with 3 kids, college, cars, etc., I have a very limited flute budget. If you can't afford a flute I want, I try to be responsible and pick one I can afford or wait till I have money saved up to purchase the desired flute. I do consider myself an enterprising person so I would seriously consider buying an undervalued flute I saw at an eBay auction, make a free market cost correction and pocket the additional cash when one of those rich people offering to pay maximum dollar came along to add it to their collection. The profits made in that quick sale will leave me with more money to buy another artsy flutes or several more affordable flutes.

As for income disparity, most of us would be considered rich by most of the world's standards. So for us rich people -- It comes down to the fact that some of us less rich people may have to sacrifice amenities while others don't when purchasing any luxury item. We can also patiently practice the art of trading up to get those things we really want.

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  Forum: NAF General Discussion · Post Preview: #142110 · Replies: 63 · Views: 1,697

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Posted on: Aug 11 2017, 04:58 PM


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QUOTE(Keith Glowka @ Aug 11 2017, 07:06 PM) *
People certainly are buying flutes and marking them up. But, guys, doesn't any person who offers one for sale under those terms become a part of the same system?

If the original owner sells for a greater price than what they paid the flute maker, is that wrong? (especially if the flute's value had increased for whatever reason?)

Is the maker obliged to provide a "fair" price, or is matching pricing to what the market will bear equally "fair"? (As a flute maker, I struggle with these questions.)


I'm just probing the ethics of this because it's an interesting topic. Would love to hear what everybody has to say. Similar concepts have been discussed on the Portal before, but I think they need occasional re-examination. After all, as markets change, so will the customs associated with them.


I don't ever remember selling a flute for a profit but that does not mean I am not for selling flutes for the maximum profit you can get. I think the certain flutes are worth investing in. Before you cast stones at my ruthless capitalistic tendencies, I did have a moment of weakness once. I called a woman several years ago who had listed for 2 Stephen O'Donell flutes for $150 dollars on eBay. I told her that in good conscious, knowing about the quality of these flutes, I could not spend so little for such fine flutes. She pulled the auction and sold them for a much higher price to a local buyer. I feel that NAFs are rather undervalued by our community and the entire genre could stand a boost in pricing across the board. If a maker has reached a level of expertise that collectors are willing to pay a premium, that is a very good thing. It speaks to the value being placed on the instrument. Just my 2 cents.

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  Forum: NAF General Discussion · Post Preview: #142102 · Replies: 63 · Views: 1,697

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Posted on: Aug 8 2017, 04:09 AM


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QUOTE(pararaptor @ Aug 8 2017, 01:45 AM) *
Here's something I'm sure you'll all enjoy.
Never mind...it wouldn't upload.

Greg - Was this the link? Dedicated to our ansestors.
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Mark
Posted on: Jul 24 2017, 03:06 PM


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QUOTE(MonoLoco @ Jul 22 2017, 12:41 PM) *
Hi, friends.

It's been a long while since I've shared a review. This will be a quickie!

I recently purchased one of Rich Dube's newer offerings. Per his website:
This new mid A flute is based on a traditionally tuned flute made by James Powesheik that is over 100 years old. The original flute was passed on to Kevin Locke by his mother."

Well, like Rich's original model, the "Contemporary Minor Pentatonic", this new one is also fantastic. Other than the tuning, the two are identical - in other words, "must-haves in one's flute quiver", IMHO.

Attached is a sound clip - nuttin' fancy, just messing around. After I listened to the recording, I realized that parts of it were songs that I have played on other flutes, including an Anazasi, I think (?). As such, it is familiar in some ways, while new in others! It does lend itself to "western" music, including Amazing Grace proper without any half-holing required, but I enjoy finding the more exotic stuff waiting inside.

I have inquired about whether or not he will be offering this new tuning in a kit form (more economical), but I haven't yet heard back. I bought if from eBay, hoping to boost his ratings there!

Also on his website is a review by another player - I'll paste it here:
"I enjoy the Grandfather tuned flute since it is tuned to A major Diatonic scale. It gives me more freedom to play in major or minor or chromatic scales. I've read about this flute that it is a Replica of Kevin Locke's grandfathers flute. My flute arrived today and I am very very happy with how it sounds. It plays very well and in tune, I am used to my cedar flutes and this flute stands up to them in quality."

That's it.

Cheers,
Scott


I enjoyed the song. Thanks for posting!

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Posted on: Jul 22 2017, 04:51 AM


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QUOTE(tootieflutie58 @ Jul 22 2017, 07:45 AM) *
But the real question is: has he ever made a cat flute?!?!

If so, I need pictures!!
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He made a mountain lion/cougar one time but I don't recall him ever made a house cat.
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Mark
Posted on: Jul 21 2017, 07:28 PM


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QUOTE(Rick McDaniel @ Jul 20 2017, 06:41 PM) *
You don't have to sell me on Greg's flutes, Mark. I am in total agreement on Greg's artistic capabilities. biggrin.gif


Hi Rick - Greg ain't making so I ain't selling biggrin.gif. I was just laying it out there for those who may not be acquainted with Greg's unique art.

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  Forum: NAF General Discussion · Post Preview: #141982 · Replies: 19 · Views: 562

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Posted on: Jul 20 2017, 09:38 AM


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Thanks for all the thoughtful input and feedback!

It is great to hear from old friends and make new ones. To fill in a little more of the back story on why I got focused on this group of people, I have the privilege to work out with several US military veterans three days a week at 5:00am and three days a week at 7:00pm. I mention the times because I consider the 5:00am classes to be early. When arriving for those classes I get there half asleep and don't talk until around 5:30 after I begin to wake up. They will laugh at my unkempt hair and how I am usually so talkative for the evening classes. It is all good-natured but illustrates something in their nature that is different than mine. They seem to enjoy and embrace the time and the suffering that occurs during the workouts. For them it is the best time of day to get the juices following and sets the rest of the day on the correct course. For me it is a necessary evil if I want to meet my weight management goals. Most of these guy have put in their 20 years and are enjoying retirement. Some were enlisted and a couple retired as general officers. They are a diverse group, some Army, a few Navy, and a couple of Marines, and one I take great pride in training with. They are all very active members in veteran affairs around our area and attend Band of Brothers meeting on a weekly basis. I don't think any of them will be solely defined as veterans but it is clear that the disciplined lives they learned to lead in the service strongly influenced who they are and how they carry themselves.

laugh.gif Warning Do not read if easily offended: As for Greg Jones and his flutes....they are uniquely special in both voicing and design. He puts much thought into each one. Whether some gruesome looking dragon (that breaths fire) or a majestic eagle, his flutes are one of a kind. Kinda like the maker (and yes Greg, special as in short bus riding crazy smile.gif ) and of course I will save you a seat.

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  Forum: NAF General Discussion · Post Preview: #141966 · Replies: 19 · Views: 562

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Posted on: Jul 19 2017, 05:06 PM


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Howdy,

Several times over the last few years I have been asked to play my NAF at funerals. I don't mind doing it and usually play a hymn or some other reflective songs. In conversations with several of my friends who happen to be veterans, the topic of end of life events came up. Not being a veteran, I listened to their thoughts and plans. Their conversation got me to wondering if the NAF might be a good substitute at a military funeral when a live bugler is unavailable. I got mixed reviews on the idea when I asked it but a select group familiar with the instrument thought it would be an appropriate substitute since it can convey a sacred and somber ambiance . One gentlemen went as far as to ask me to play at the time of his funeral. That got me to pondering what I songs would I play and which flute I would use if the situation were to arise. The songs would of course include Taps and most likely Amazing Grace. Which flute to use was alluding me at this time. In my weekly conversation with Greg Jones I mentioned I would like to have a flute decorated with patriotic theme for such events. I was not sure of exactly how it should look and asked Greg to fill in the details if he would be so kind to craft one for me. Below are the pictures of the eagle flute Greg made for me. IT plays very well and the cross fingering notes that I rely on are all spot on. I just thought I would share my new instrument since I have not posted much lately. Safe Travels smile.gif

Mark

Note: I am the WORST photographer ever to be born. I am attempting to show the beautiful detail work on the flute rather than the Alice in Wonderland disproportionate dimensions in which many of the pictures turned out.....

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Mark
Posted on: Jul 4 2017, 06:36 PM


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QUOTE(Keith Glowka @ Jul 1 2017, 04:16 PM) *
Happy Independence Day Weekend, folks! I hope you find it fun, inspiring, and a chance to reflect and be thankful.


Same to you Keith. I hope your Independence day was spent in good company as mine was

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Posted on: Jun 1 2017, 12:31 PM


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Good information Keith! I saw them in the early 80s. Their stage setup was a big viking ship. It was a great show. I will see if I can see them in Dallas. Thanks!

Mark

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Posted on: May 14 2017, 05:04 PM


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QUOTE(pararaptor @ May 13 2017, 10:49 PM) *
Thank you for the kind words everyone, I appreciate it.
Rick: Thank you for your comments; and I will make you a Great Horned Owl flute before I stop completely.
I don't sell flutes anymore. but I'll make a few when it occurs to be to explore a facet of the making process (like the roost and block on the snake).
I did make a curved rattlesnake; it has a straight bore inside a 2x4 that I made S turns in (I'll add a picture of it along with a few more)
Thanks again.


Amazing work Greg! They look like the ones I saw last time I was in West Texas. That being said, here are some photos of the snake control agent you made last year. I think the FP might get a better idea of what you do in your spare time. Yall can thank me later smile.gif.

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Posted on: May 3 2017, 05:40 AM


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QUOTE(Keith Glowka @ May 1 2017, 06:00 PM) *
I recently bought some rolls of food sealer vacuum bags on Amazon. On many purchases, you get follow-up emails from the seller wanting product feedback. But what I got from this seller was downright creepy! Eeeewwwww! Buy some vacuum bags...get a stalker!! ohmy.gif huh.gif unsure.gif

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Here's a screenshot of the email:


That was AWESOME - To know you are all they talk and think about at the work place must give you a special feeling. tongue.gif biggrin.gif smile.gif. I am sure you are used to this treatment being your celebrity status and all.....Thanks for posting. I needed a chuckle this morning.

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Posted on: Apr 26 2017, 01:53 PM


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QUOTE(Utah Chris @ Apr 26 2017, 03:14 PM) *
Thanks, Mark, for checking with Russ. That's the best authority yet.

The bore appears to be solid, not split and is fairly rough inside as though not bored by machine. I can see no seam lines on the outside. The tuning is variable and the fundamental is not very stable. With standard fingering it's a fundamental E (tending toward F), G, A, B, D, E. The sound is loud enough, but it has a pronounced goose-like "honking" tone I attribute at least partially to the plate. It's not unpleasant (MGAs have a touch of that sound too) but this one is not particularly clear or resonant.

To me the very tall chimney block doesn't seem compatible with the design, but this one looks like it was made for the flute by a good craftsman. That said, the wood is unfinished (cedar? cottonwood? it's very light), the carvings and decorations are deeply incised and to my knowledge all the symbolism is authentic to Hopi iconography. If I were to guess I'd call it a "Corn Boy," after one of the minor kachinas. The stamp looks familiar to me too, but now after all of this I don't know why, and I don't remember why I associated it with Russ except it may have been sold to me that way. My documentation is not at my current location so I can't look it up, but it was an eBay find.

I've looked at all the identifications on the WFS site and also Flutopedia that I don't know personally, and it doesn't seem to be there. Thanks for all your help, folks.



Glad I could help! It is a fun journey to join you on smile.gif. Good luck finding out the maker.


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Posted on: Apr 25 2017, 05:48 PM


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QUOTE(greybeard @ Apr 25 2017, 02:47 PM) *
I wouldn't rule it out as one of Russ' flutes. Is it a one piece, bored construction? Or split bore?

Perhaps the decoration was done after the fact. Does anybody still have contact information for Russ, maybe he can help?


Talked to Russ about the flute this evening and based on the description, he confirmed it was not his. He never made a flute of this theme or with this block.

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Posted on: Apr 24 2017, 04:53 PM


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Thanks for the nice overview. It is good to hear Echoes was worth your travels. I appreciate the great pictures.

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Posted on: Apr 24 2017, 04:40 PM


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I am confident this is not a Russ Wolf Flute. I have seen most of what he made over the years and I have never seen or discussed a flute like this with him. Also, that is not his mark. He uses a wolf paw stamp/brand with wolf written under it.

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Posted on: Apr 21 2017, 06:07 AM


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I love the old flutes. I have several reproductions of the Kiowa style flute. Regarding that style flute I am referencing the metal fipple shield (usually made of brass or tin). They can sound really smooth but can warble loudly when pushed. I don't imagine that the fipple shield is exclusive to the Kiowa but they are on most of the old Kiowa flutes I have seen. I also like that simple block. Russ Wolf made some nice flutes featuring that block. Leroy Culley also uses that simple block design.

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Posted on: Apr 20 2017, 05:57 AM


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What a beautiful collection of flutes! Thanks for sharing.

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Posted on: Feb 13 2017, 12:21 PM


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QUOTE(tootieflutie58 @ Feb 11 2017, 01:59 PM) *
My beloved Ellie (my avatar) is gone. She had late stage kidney failure. I let her go this morning.

My heart is broken. Yes, I will mend, but not right away. She blessed my life for 17 years. I will always love her.

Please play a song in her memory for me.


Sorry for your loss Jan. I will be sure to play her a song today.

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Posted on: Feb 6 2017, 05:07 PM


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I can imagine him smiling at us from the great beyond. I think I will go play my mode 2 - 5 he made for me and think about the good times I enjoyed with Lone Crow. smile.gif

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Posted on: Feb 5 2017, 12:52 PM


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Leonard had a good ear so I imagine he would have noticed this. I wonder if he might have made the flute to play a specific song? Might be far-fetched but you never know.

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Posted on: Jan 29 2017, 08:55 AM


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QUOTE(Jeff G @ Jan 26 2017, 08:07 AM) *
A piece I played yesterday at lunch(rehearsal time!!!).. I am really surprised at how well an iPhone can record! Silver flute, not NAF.

Beseme Mucho


Thanks Jeff. I really enjoyed it. A very nice way to start my Sunday morning!

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I wonder if the condensation on a metal plate flows better than on a wooden/porous surface? The moisture would flow into the main body of the flute rather than build up in the flu. Never really thought about it before.

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Congrats on the purchase. I find that I gravitate towards the few MGA flutes I own. They really seem to get better with age. They are a safe purchase because they seem to always appreciate in value. Safe Journeys.


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QUOTE(TroutBum @ Nov 21 2016, 08:04 PM) *
Look what arrived today. It's a Jon Norris NASF in the key of B. It's the one at the bottom of the attached picture. This is my second Jon Norris flute. In the picture just above it is my first Jon Norris flute in the key of G. Above that is a Guierrmo Martinez NAF in the key of A. I love the look and smell of cedar, but more importantly Jon's attention to tuning.

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Very nice. Are they all mode 2-5 pentatonically tuned?

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